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I’m a 51-year-old Aspergic CAD-Monkey. Sardonic, cynical and with the political leanings of a social reformer, I’m also a toy and model figure collector, particularly interested in the history of plastics and plastic toys. Other interests are history, current affairs, modern art, and architecture, gardening and natural history. I love plain chocolate, fireworks and trees but I don’t hug them, I do hug kittens. I hate ignorance, when it can be avoided, so I hate the 'educational' establishment and pity the millions they’ve failed with teaching-to-test and rote 'learning' and I hate the short-sighted stupidity of the entire ruling/industrial elite, with their planet destroying fascism and added “buy-one-get-one-free”. I also have no time for fools and little time for the false crap we're all supposed to pretend we haven't noticed, or the games we're supposed to play. I will 'bite the hand that feeds' to remind it why it feeds.

Friday, 31 August 2018

Hong Kong Hollow Horses - P2 Pony (Type 2)

The P2 'Pony' is clearly a copy or further development/re-tool of the P1 Pony, but is a far more interesting premise, with several sets and accessories associated with it/identified so there's much more to get our teeth into.

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The horse; as shown with the P1 post, the P2 has cruder carving to the mane and tail, thinner walls to its flanks and is unmarked. Other differences (between the two P's) include the holes for the rider's locating-spigots being set higher in the saddle-moulding on the P2 and a slightly lower head position with a 'softer' neck

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It also has a clearly defined flat top to the body cavity, tends to a glossier plastic and has one of the smallest ranges of plastic-colours of all Hong Kong hollow-horses, apart from a few slight shade differences in the brown, there is a black, white and grey and that's it.

Lots of them too, these were made in the modern era, when machines could run for hours with huge hoppers of colour-stable granules, their pigments chemically matched to tolerances of 100th's of grams-per-ton, so like modern army-men you don't find the slight variations in colour between batches, you will find with older sets/lines.

The reason browns often retain the variation is down to their being - in plastics terms - technically a purple; a mixture of red, yellow and blue, and therefore harder to match and more likely to result in variance.

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A comparison between the Pony (P2) and the old Giant 'Smoothie', the genetics are there but they are very different beasts; the Pony being altogether more smooth, boxy and toy-like next to the Smoothie, who was christened that, by me, as he is himself smoother than the sculpted [Crescent] 'Wavymane'!

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As we led with the cowboys on P1, we'll lead with the Natives this time . . . and what a shower! These are very poor sculpts, almost deserving of the term semi-flat, no details at all, few extremities, all weapon tips missing - and I'm sure it's the mould; not short-shots.

They are recognisable as the old Giant poses, but only just and like the horses, the colour range of the plastic is limited, and colour-fast between batches, which - with their other [non] features make them easier to sort out of mixed lots. Locating-studs are short and fat.

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The same points extend to the cowboys; colour-fast, ex-Giant, semi-flat, crappy mouldings. Interestingly, despite at least three sources (in a minute!) and many years of collecting, the evidence suggests the mounted Indians outnumber the cowboys by a slight but constant 5:4 or maybe 4:3

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So, we have quite a few sets for these, which is the best way to confirm earlier sorting, and while I can't be sure of the dates, I'm pretty sure these were first. The Einco 'Indian Village', which I remember hanging in Webb's newsagent in Hartley Wintney in around 1974.

This is one of the best non-Giant sets of the type (despite the awful sculpts) having various additional contents to actually make a 'mini-playset'. You may recognise the trees as being common from Ri-Toys sets later in the 1970's through to the early '90's and that gives us a clue to Einco being a made-up brand (or 'phantom' in today's lingo) and confirms with the sets lower down the post.

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The obvious addition is two poses of foot figure, both crude, both semi-flat'ish, both [barely] recognisable as ex-Giant sculpts but apparently carved from a block of soap with a sharpened spoon! Colours are even tighter than for the mounted figures, as they were - to my knowledge - only ever used with the one set, so; a relatively small production-contract.

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Both figures have small protrusions on their bases, which may be deliberate, or may be accidental damage to the mould-tool, or some long-forgotten part of the production process of this set?

There are similar marks on a Noah from Pagget Brothers, and one wonders if there was a concerted attempt to make figures stand up better on the deep-pile carpets of 1970's suburban houses, but it's conjecture and a long-shot!

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There are a few versions of this Tee-Pee (Tipi) out of Hong Kong, and this is a copy of earlier better ones, copying even the weird tie-down hooks at either side - possibly used to attach the original donors to base-cards with thread in window-box sets.

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Fences in two sizes, bog standard HK-fayre, being copies of Merit line-side fencing and Britains farm stock. The trees are a simplified Britains palm-quartet and a poplar tree of dubious  origin . . .  and we have an additional horse; not part of the 'hollow-horse' oeuvre!

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The reason for the inclusion of the solid horse is for the operating of a rather European looking muck-cart, the Indians obviously swapped for a pile of coon-skins! While some of the additional components were Rado Industries own, I suspect this pair may have been bought-in, they are quite different to the crudities of the rest of the set and used to turn-up in Christmas-crackers and the like.

The yellow wagon is from another source and is placed in the collage for comparison; it has locating-studs for a horse (Probably hollow) I have yet to ID/ascribe.

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I'm pretty sure these come later, all the accessories have gone, the unmistakeable Ri-Toys tree-logo is present and the only thing to note is the tight 'colour way' of each set, there's about 25, 30-maybe per pack.

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Generic sets also exist without the Ri-Toys tree logo, and artwork re-drawn in brighter, flatter colours, these are even smaller with an eight-figure contents count, per bag.

And please don't imagine I think these came second or the P1's first, they have been labelled arbitrarily and numbered arbitrarily by me, and give the numbers of these compared to the P1, it could well be the P1 is an off-shoot or piracy of P2, but they (the P1 people!) made more effort - with the figures and the horse - so it gets first billing 

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But is it Giant?

No, this set and the similar P1's date from long after Giant has been replaced as a branding by Arco with their larger, poorer quality, rack-toys, and while Arco may have issued some small-scale hollow-horsed sets; A) they would have bought-them in and B) Ri-Toys are one of the few 'known-players' among the thousands (of plastics manufacturers) operating out of Hong Kong. Whether Einco were a Western importer or a made-up name is the only question-mark outstanding here, really.

Hong Kong Hollow Horses - P1 Pony (Type-1)

My old notes and the index-card text which accompanies the loose versions of these reads -

P1 - Pony. Very well-detailed copy - but smaller - of 'Smoothie' with more detailed mane, more realistic tail than 'P2', "HONG KONG" in small letters at rear of body cavity, which is arched. Identified by mutually exclusive association, two sources.

More clean samples have come-in since the card was written about 25-years ago, and that's what we're looking at here.

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This is the horse in question and I hope he conforms to the above description, He's quite a solid chap compared to some HK horses, but smaller than most, so a 'new' sculpt, copied from the older donors.

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P1 is marked neatly with 'Hong' over 'Kong' in a little block reading head-to-tail toward the rear of the body cavity which makes all these 'hollow-horses' hollow.

It's called P1 because there is a P2 (which will be posted above this post) and here they are, next to each other, the P2 has elements of what I call remoulding in that while the horse is equally small, its mane and tail are cruder and it looks like the changes have been carved straight into the tool. It's also a thinner-walled sculpt and unmarked.

P2 is also glossier than the matted, slightly (or subtly) textured surface of P1

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My pelt drawing/diagram which also shows the strange arch under the saddle which may help ID them if you are following these none-to frequent posts (they will become more frequent - I just need to get a rocket up my arse!) with the aim of sorting them out of bigger mixed lots - which is the main purpose!

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Horse colours are all realistic, as far as HK horses go, no bright colours or dark green ones!

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The cowboys, as with the Indians they are the three old Giant poses, quite a reasonable take on the older figures, faces have gone and the locating-spigots on the legs are much heavier, with the single-six-shooter pose's having slight blobs on the tips.

The colour-palette is best described as subdued primaries and I'm not 100% happy with the pale-green double-six-gunner, his hat is slightly different and his feet likewise, but with two apparent cavities for the pose (fatter and thinner torsos) and no other set he fits with, he's here for now - see below.

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The Native American Indians, again three poses, again ex-Giant and you can see another reason why both the pale green cowboy and the poorly-moulded ones remain in the sample, there are similar Indians, and they are better matches, so there were poor mouldings (too quick out of the tool leads to shrinkage which at this scale smoothes-off detail at the same time) and a few leerier colours; note the pinks!

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P1 on the left, a Giant Smoothie on the right, you can see that the Pony is a much smaller version of the Giant mount - which has a smaller version itself.

As yet I have been unable to tie these into a set, brand or manufacturer, nor have any accessories yet been associated with P1 sets/lots.

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But is it Giant?

No, despite using the same Giant figures as many other HK Horse sets/groups and using the smaller version of a Giant horse, this family (see P2) is a later entity altogether dating from the mid-late 1970's or even (in the case of P2) the early '80's.

Monday, 2 October 2017

Battle of Berlin Mini Military Playpak - DFC - Multi Toys Corp.

I'll load this last so it appears above the other two of three, as it's ended up with the most images and the other two are pretty-much much-of-a-muchness! The three were - in point of fact - sold together in a cling-film outer with a card tray.

Box scan promises little but a light tank could reasonably be expected to star in the contents! The "Over 35 Pieces" on all three boxes is a funny one, there are in every set 31 figures, one or two vehicles and a polyethylene play-mat made of carrier-bag material. In the case of one set (the Battle of Berlin in this post) this gives an item-count of only 33, count the wheels and turret seperately and you get 36! The other two sets are a little better, giving 34 items/40 parts!

The contents complete and set-up on the rather simplistic play-mat; clearly a meeting of two cart-tracks down in the Grünwald rather than the more iconic urban setting of so much of the photography of the final, brutal campaign by the 'Red Army' to behead the Nazi-daemon!

Which makes the sight of two sets of Matchbox US Infantry piracies dukein' it out in the woods all the more incongruous! Especially as one side gets to call on a vaguely British armoured-car for fire-support . . . lend-lease to the Soviet Union!

The figures, no mortar or team but most of the set is copied (leaning-back Tommy-gunner, bazooka-man, AFV-overalls and stabbing down are also absent, along with the MG No.2) and you get them in two colours, a mid-green (close to the Russian summer uniform) and an olive-drab which sort of passes for field-gray!

The figures are so-so, they're not the worst copies of Matchbox in these small sizes, nor are they the best. Unmarked and in a glossy plastic; they is; what they is, what they is!

The armoured-car is a very basic version of the big Daimler as modelled in small scale as a kit by Hasegawa for a long time now. There are lots of versions of this from Hong Kong (and 'China'), most probably coming down from the Dinky die-cast toy original; this is the poorest version I know and is an umpty-somethingth-generation copy!

However, finish-quality is good; it's a nice clean, well-defined moulding, just not very accurate to the donor! Marked "Made in Hong Kong" in the body-cavity.

A scan of the play-mat should anyone need to print-out a paper replacement, neatly dating the set's issue to 1983 and suggesting that DFC/Dimensions for Children might remain with us through the still-busy MTC whose rack-toy products have featured heavily on the Home-Blog over the last 20-odd months.

Below this post you will find briefer looks at the other two sets in the series/pack-liner; Battle for Stalingrad and Battle for the Black Forest.

But is it Giant?
No - date is way off, source-material for the piracies is way-off, plastic play-matt is not Giant's style, although some of the comic-stuff with Giant figures did have similar play-mats; they were paper.

Battle of Stalingrad Mini Military Playpak - DFC - Multi Toys Corp.

So, to the second of the three sets issued jointly by the Dimensions for Children and MTC brands in 1983; small sets sold together in a trio and containing a handful of Hong Kong-sourced piracies, the contents similar between the three sets.

Scanned box, the artwork is even more exciting than on the (above/newer post) Battle of Berlin set, if only we actually found a Schwimmwagen with MG fitted upon opening the box, or plastic renditions of the walls of the Kremlin - wrong city DFC! Sadly - no such luck!

The figures are copies of Matchbox's US infantry and as we looked at the poses above, we are here looking at the colour variations of the two main armies, one being in a rich yellow-olive or khaki and the other set being in  a darker olive-drab or jade-green, however there is quite a variation between figures and each set has 31 figures, random by pose and number of each pose but always (or certainly - in the case of my three sets) 15 in one colour-way, 16 in the other.

In place of the Daimler armoured-car in the Berlin set we get two jeeps in this set, both scaled larger than the figures, one fitted with a spigot for an absent driver and looking vaguely like a US WWII-era Jeep, following a common HK design, the other having a hole forward of the driver's seat which may be for an equally absent driver, or a steering-wheel, as it's not present either - we'll never know!

This second 'jeep' however is not a Jeep, but resembles almost the Soviet version utility-car with a different bonnet (hood) and squat'er appearance, see also next/older post (Battle of the Black Forest) for a couple more views; it also lacks the star on the bonnet usually seen on Hong Kong Jeeps.

The different markings, plastic solour and wheels suggest both were bought-in from separate manufacturers, with the smaller one being supplied by the same producer who provided the armoured-car seen in the Battle of Berlin set, the larger one originating with the same company that made the figures.

As with the other two sets this is a 1:1 scan of the play-mat in case anyone needs to print a paper replacement for the PE original, and, in keeping with the Battle of Berlin set, seems to have eschewed the iconic scenes of urban combat around the tractor-factory, rail terminus, river-side wharves or main square, depicting - instead - the rural idyll to the South of the city as described by Guy Sajer in his seminal autobiography The Forgotten Soldier!

So we've had Berlin and Stalingrad, what great battle next; Iwo Jima, Leningrad or Moscow, Tobruk maybe, Kohima . . . Mote Casino, Dunkirk even . . . ? No, we're off to the Black Forest!

But is it Giant?
No - date is way off, source-material for the piracies is way-off, plastic play-matt is not Giant's style, although some of the comic-stuff with Giant figures did have similar play-mats; they were paper.

Battle of the Black Forrest Mini Military Playpak - DFC - Multi Toys Corp.

This set is in the same vein as the other two, and has almost identical contets to the Stalingrad set, whether the likelihood of getting two jeeps or an armoured car in each set was fixed or random I don't know, but one day will track-down some duplicates which will answer that particular question!

Again we'll lead-off with the box scan, hint's of a German tank are going to prove misleading when the purchaser opens the box, but at least this time we have US forces on the cover!

Of course; there was no major combat in the Black Forest in the Second World War - the people who started the bloody conflagration escaped remarkably unscathed, as - indeed - in the case of the Austrians, they had in 1918, after starting that 'show'! Some of the Cities had been bombed, often heavily for years, and there were some limited actions against fanatical Nazis in some towns, but generally Southern Germany and Austria escaped the worst.

The complete contents vis-à-vis the figures and in keeping with the two sets above ('newer post' or click the DFC tag) we get two colours of Matchbox US infantry copies, 15 in one colour and 16 in another; figures are reasonable for what they are, early 1980's piracies from Hong Kong.

It's seems amazing; but with random pose-numbers and plastic colour variation, it looks likely that the figures were hand-sorted/counted into the boxes, each of my three having exactly 31 figures with a 15/16 split as far as main plastic-colour goes.

Two Jeeps, again as per the Battle of Stalingrad set from the same brands (Dimensions for Children / MTC) and within the same retail liner, from two sources; one is a common HK design with star on the bonnet (hood), the other looking a bit 'quatsch'!

Well, it says Battle of the Black Forest and for once the play-mat delivers! Two connected, twisty paths for your handfuls of figures to rush round, stalking each other, a bit narrow for the jeeps though!

It's a 1:1 scan for anyone who needs to print-off a paper replacement for a missing plastic one - the original is basically printed on plastic carrier bag material; Polyethylene (PE) film/sheet.

What's clearly a missed opportunity with these three sets is that despite the similarity of the contents and the fact that they were sold as a trio in a cling-film wrap with card-tray, they (the designers, shippers, jobbers) didn't think to make the mats line-up . . . a bit of tweaking and they could have matched-edges like Lego base-plates!

But is it Giant?
No - date is way off, source-material for the piracies is way-off, plastic play-matt is not Giant's style, although some of the comic-stuff with Giant figures did have similar play-mats; they were paper.

Sunday, 13 August 2017

Kositoys (Kamley Industrial) Cowboys 'n' Indians

The umpty-somethingth box-ticker today I'm afraid, but I want to get everything I have on this group up at once. There is actually a Cowboy and Indian set from Kositoy available for sale on-line as I write/publish this, but it's a large-scale set of pretty crude Airfix piracies, from the China-marked later period of Kamley Industrial with nothing to offer this post.

Which is; a header card for a small scale set, contents unknown.

It did come with a few figures, but they were clearly A) mixed from several sources and B) too small - as a sample - to have been all the contents; had they been matching; so just some card-art to look at!

The artwork is very similar to the Einco branded sets, this is not to say there's any link (beyond that they are both early/mid-1970's), but that if I've found three Einco sets (and seen more), which I have; there is every chance that a better sample will turn-up eventually and I can either update this post or post them again separately.

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But is it Giant?

No, but it is likely to be found to contain 2nd or 3rd generation copies of Giant's mounted poses, there are as this Blog will show over time, only the two main sets of poses; the Giant 3 Cowboys and 3 Indians and the 6x6 poses set of the other main players, with lots of minor exceptions and one-off's like Solpa's figures, so there's at least a...oooh...60% chance (?) of these having the Giant poses when they are ascribed.

Kamley Industrial Co. Ltd. KS2 - 3001 Combat Troops - Airfix 2nd Type 8th Army Copies

Really another box-ticker as the bulk of the lose figures are in storage at the moment, but it's pretty self-explanatory, and indeed because I don't do the 'A is for...' trope on this Blog, the title has as good as covered it!

KS as a product code was the first incarnation of Kamley Industrial as they would be registered in the early 1980's and ran along-side the Kositoy brand of the same group, actually KS seems (as a generic) to have pre-dated Kositoy, but this set is a later addition to the range I feel, purely from the graphics and the fact that it contains copies of figures Airfix only released in 1974?

Only three of the figures are taken exclusively from the 2nd version Airfix 8th Army set; the mine clearer, the MG spotter and the chap running with a Sten-gun, the rest having been available as scale-downs from the Airfix 1:32nd scale set for some years and some of Kamley's competitors had been doing just that, however the bases suggest all were copied from the newer smaller set from Haldane Place.

I have a whole bunch of loose ones (in storage!) and I may have other colours, but I can't remember which (or if) so we'll leave it with these few who have come-in recently in green, and the bagged sandy ones!

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But is it Giant?

No.